it appears to be the keyboard and my controller fight for dominance and if my controller is like, on at all my keyboard + mouse dont work, even after turning the game on with my ds4 controller, however keyboard without a controller works perfectly fine for me
It's so gratifying to know that there's a dev out there willing to make another game like Power Stone and Wario World at a time where such games are sorely neglected by their parent companies, especially when the game is a blast to play and learn.
I noticed in the Trophy Viewer that Junior's model (Split's bro, in case anyone here forgot) doesn't include his Paul Stanley star. Not sure if that's been written out of his design or if it's a minor graphical oversight.
We actually didn't include it since for Jr, we already were using a very complex system to get the fur pattern on his body (we use very specialised texturing techniques to ensure they are very high quality even when zoomed in!)
But who knows, we may include it to match his ref more in the future!
Having a issue with the game. i'm trying to play it with my Dualshock 4 controller but for some reason it just wouldn't start the game, and then i tried using my keyboard and mouse.. same issue
Ah, Some times if you tab/in out of the game with a button, it thinks the button is being held. If you the press the button (in this the case, the B button) or mash the buttons, it should fix itself!
i played through (what i think is) most of the first episode on easy and normal mode.
overall i think it’s pretty fun. i like the character designs especially!!
i’m gonna try to play through it some more times later on harder difficulties and different characters to get a better feel for it.
i definitely have a ton of quality-of-life complaints, though.
this comment is very long so i just want to reiterate here that i like the game a lot!!
again, most of my comment is going to be about quality-of-life stuff or bugs
i played with mal and gremile so far, so some of my points might not quite apply to the other two characters or on the harder difficulties (i’ve played some on an older version and some on the most recent patch, so it may be the case that something i said here doesn’t apply anymore)
Potential bugs/errors
you can grab multiple enemies at once, but only one enemy takes damage.
on the train section in the second stage of episode one, you can fall off of the backside.
the game otherwise doesn’t let you fall off of the stage, so it feels like an error
i also experienced the glitch that i think someone else did where the first boss glitches out recovering from stun and infinitely spawns dust clouds and doesn’t do anything (on v1.1.5).
with gremile’s jump B, if you touch the ground while he’s putting his guns away, he doesn’t snap to the ground like he does when you’re shooting.
because of that, you still count as being in the air so when you try to attack you get aerial attacks.
i mostly encounter this because i do jump B, then i want to land and start doing moves on the ground, but when i tap B i get j.B again.
sometimes it’s happened to me when i run into king yama and it sort of boosts me into the air a little, or after a super recovery when you’re not quite on the ground yet but you can still perform an action
the game flings you up into the air when you occupy the same spot as another character.
depending on how much overlap or momentum there is, you can go really high, it’s a little jarring and hard to predict
this is kind of an unhelpful bug report since i don’t know how it happens, but somehow in the middle of one playthrough my inputs suddenly became very glitchy.
i thought it was my controller acting up, but i switched back to keyboard controls (meaning i quit the playthrough) and it didn’t fix anything.
for some reason, any buttons i pressed wouldn’t count as being held for more than a few frames, and also the game would seemingly drop inputs at random.
unplugging my controller completely resolves the issue, but now anytime i plug the controller back in, i have the same issue.
i guess it’s somehow a bug with the controller support in the game? it can interfere with my inputs even when i don’t have any controller buttons bound and am only using keyboard+mouse. and in other programs, my controller wasn’t glitching out.
Gameplay
i think the health system is a little weird. your health is displayed in a bar like you can take a wide range of damage, but in my experience you can basically treat it like “four hits and you’re dead”.
that kind of seems to hold true whether you’re fighting bosses or normal enemies and whether you get hit by an up-close punch or a far away projectile.
of course, there definitely are things that do more or less damage, but i feel like it’s hard to really feel the differece.
i think it would be better for gameplay flow if you didn’t get knocked down from every single attack.
for the most part, it didn’t really seem worth it to super recover unless you were about to get launched into a stage hazard or something.
enemies don’t seem to be able to combo you on purpose, so the only benefit to super recovering on most hits is to get up faster which isn’t usually worth spending a super orb on, to me.
i think having attacks that don’t knock you down would be better so that you don’t have to wait a really long time every time you happen to get hit. or at least, maybe you should be able to press something when you hit the ground to recover faster.
i think the attacks in this game seem pretty committal, which is kind of unusual for a game in this genre (not that that makes it a bad thing!).
even though a lot of enemy attacks are reactable, i think often times when you notice one happening it’ll be too late if you’ve already started committing to an attack.
there’s no dodge mechanic or anything, so i feel like it might be nice to have more jump-cancels on things so you can bail out. otherwise your only invincible option is a grab attack. perhaps supers could be more invincible so that you have more options to deal with that kind of situation? especially since you have to use a super orb, i think it’d be fair and not a choice you would always make
it might be nice if you could pick different grab attacks, at least on normal enemies
like if you had one grab attack that did less damage to the single target that you grabbed, but it deals AoE damage, or something like that
i think since it seems like your primary finisher, grab attacks currently feel a little repetitive because there’s only one animation on normal enemies (as far as i can tell), they last a long time for how often you might want to use them, and they also only work on one enemy at a time.
the length and special camera angle end up breaking the flow when you use grabs so often. you also lose track of the other enemies because of the camera change, so it’s kind of easy to get smacked in the face right after landing one if there are other enemies around
so it might be nice to have grabs that give you extra utility like crowd control or repositioning or something like that. or at least make the animation a little snappier somehow.
an actual pause button would be nice, mostly if you have to go to the bathroom or something, but also because it would let you change your controls and stuff without having to quit back out to the menu
in the train sections, i think the hitbox for the laser stage hazards seems really tall.
every so often, i think i’ve jumped clean over it and then i somehow get clipped by it when it doesn’t seem to visually collide with my model.
the collision detection on the water slide section should probably be changed so it’s not so slope-y.
it’s not very fun when your character is constantly flying off of the sides of the raft, you just feel like you have no control
i don’t think enemies should be able to fall off the stage on their own.
it kinda just feels weird how often enemies end up doing that, especially when the player can’t fall off the stage
related, knocking enemies off the stage should probably just KO them.
it is kind of easy, but it’s a simple pleasure in a lot of beat-’em-ups and i think blasting enemies off the stage only for them to just reappear with a little bit of life lost is a little unsatisfying. maybe it could at least hurt enemies more?
gremile’s A+B+C has a deadzone right in front of him. i dunno if it’s on purpose but i just think it feels kinda bad
actually, in general i think the super feels underwhelming. aside from the deadzone (which is also a big deal, imo) it doesn’t seem to have great damage output or accuracy, and you’ll instantly drop it as soon as you jump or get hit.
Aesthetics
the game can get very visually busy, so there are some extra touches that could improve visual clarity a lot.
like, if characters had colored outlines that always rendered on top of everything, or if effects are rendered on top of characters, you could still see the character through the effect like it’s partially transparent, or something like that.
one time i had a goblin place a bomb near the front of the screen, so probably a good 60% of the screen was totally concealed, and i couldn’t tell if i was near any stage hazards, or see that a second goblin had placed a bomb next to me that was also hidden by the explosion and about to explode!
likewise, on the car fight in the tunnel section of the second stage, a bomb blowing up in the front can obscure the landing zone of a bomb that’s going to land behind the explosion
the camera should probably be able to go a little further out of bounds.
it’s hard to see what’s going on with your character if you’re right up at the bottom edge/corners of the screen
especially on the racetrack stage, you can go totally off-camera!
there’s not really a lot of hitstop on attacks (if any?) besides grab attacks, so i think a lot of normal attacks end up feeling pretty underwhelming even if they do blast enemies across the screen.
gremile’s gunshots should probably have bullet trails or something.
it’s hard to tell exactly where you’re hitting and it would also help give them more impact, i think
there could probably be a little more slowdown/zoom-in when you land the final hit on a boss (like guilty gear XRD/strive, i guess) before it goes all rainbow and melty.
the screen going rainbow is too sudden when the camera angle changes at the same time, it’s really hard to process what exactly you’re seeing when you KO a boss. to be honest, i might just suggest not making everything go rainbow-y? it just feels out of place somehow.
i feel like the boss’s name should probably be shown somewhere near the health bar?
i’m not sure if i missed it, but there should probably be some indication of how long a boss will be stunned for
like the armor bar should probably be recharging or something while you beat ‘em up
i don’t think it’s super fun to just have to estimate how long a boss is stunned and how much of that time you think you’ve already used, especially because once the boss gets its armor back you can’t land a grab attack which massively increases your damage output for that cycle.
extending a combo on a stunned boss feels like a risk the game is forcing you to take because there’s no on-screen indicator, rather than a risk you can take of your own accord if the boss is about to recover
related to my complaint about grab attacks, to avoid repetitiveness and flow-breaking i think maybe the KO slowdown and voice line should only happen when you clear a wave, rather than for every single enemy that you KO?
it also becomes jarring when an enemy gets KO’d by a stage hazard, because then your game slows down at an unexpected time since you probably weren’t paying attention to that enemy
i do hope more optimiation or options to help improve performance get added in the future, like maybe rendering resolution scaling or something like that.
it is part of the aesthetics of the game, but if someone is running on a weaker machine they might also appreciate the option to have corpses disappear? they didn’t really serve any gameplay purpose as far as i can tell
i could mostly run it fine on a not-especially powerful machine, but it would be nice if there were options to make it run a little better
Controls
the turning radius for running feels like it’s implemented strangely. of all of my complaints, this is definitely the biggest issue to me
you can’t run in one direction and then directly backwards without taking a huge arc.
i’ve definitely run head-first into so many attacks (especially stage hazards and projectiles) just because of this, and in general i think it makes following enemies in combos harder than intended
keyboard and controller bindings should probably be separate.
i was definitely very confused when i saw that there was controller support but it didn’t seem work at all in the game.
so i played on mouse+keyboard, and basically right before i wrote this comment i found out that the controller still works in the control binding menu anyways.
it seems like you want to be running most of the time, so it would probably be better to make running default and change shift pedal to be something that slows you down (like maybe a guard that reduces your damage or something).
otherwise you’re going to spend 90% of the game with your finger on the run button which is a little straining on your run-button finger.
i think there might be too many button combinations?
basically, if you’re playing on a controller then you’re going to have to deal with at least one uncomfortable button combination for most layouts. you can add macros to combat this (and there are macros for A+B+C and B+C+D), but i think maybe changing the fundamental control scheme would be better
the current controls make the shift pedal feel kind of underused. instead of just making you run, i think some of the things you do with button combinations now could be done with shift pedal + button instead.
or you could maybe add a second button that’s purely to modify the function of ABCD (basically the same suggestion, just making a new button instead).
there could also be button-hold and button-release commands, maybe? like, mal and gremile have a B,B,B,A+B combo, but it could be B,B,B,hold B or just B,B,hold B instead. it’s just an idea, though
in gremile’s case, he doesn’t have a B,B,B,B attack like mal does, so i feel like there isn’t really a reason that he should have to press A+B to get the fourth attack besides the fact that it seems like a universal chain (which is fair enough, but just a little odd in my opinion)
i also think button combinations with the jump button are kind of awkward if you’re using mouse+key
board with the default controls.
you have to coordinate pressing spacebar with one hand at the same time that you click with a different finger on the other hand, which is slightly difficult, and if you mess it up, you’re probably going to get a jump instead of an attack.
the detection for button combinations needs to be more lenient.
my first experience of the game was getting to the practice room before the game starts and wondering why i couldn’t start the game when i pressed B+C+D, and it was because i just didn’t press them close enough for the game to count it.
of course, i got more consistent over time, but i still fail them every so often when i tend not to in most fighting games since they have a little more leniency.
you should definitely add button macros for A+B, B+C, and A+C since i feel like there’s no reason not to and would help with freedom in mapping controls
I will try and respond to this in a bit, but some of those things are intended, while some bugs we are in the process of updating. A lot of what you mentioned though is intended, like Gremiles Minigun dead zone!
Oh yes, I wanted to mention by the way, if you do have any suggestions you'd like for the game, you can post it here or come to my discord and give me feed back!
The recent patch that includes the marcos for SUPER and TAUNT is due to commuinity input!
Really good game. Love the combat and graphics, especially Gremile coming back from your previous game. Only issue I run into when attempting to bind my controller inputs I seem to be unable to do so. Sometimes it works, then it gets stuck in which neither controller or keyboard works which has led to several redownloads to trash old files to fix. Otherwise, I see no other issues with the game
Really good! I think the only thing that irks me is the sound design, it feels a bit underwhelming, which is pretty crucial for a fighting game, and it makes a bit hard to tell whos doing what from a zoomed away perspective, mostly in singleplayer when theres multiple enemies doing things. Presentation and gameplay however, are shaping up to be REALLY solid!
Heaven mode feels too difficult for what is supposed to be the more relaxing mode. I eventually got the hang of it, but I was getting tired of mashing to skip a cutscene that I was getting to for the 20th time. The especially frustrating parts were the boss attacks that took away what seemed like half of the health bar. While the small enemies posed little threat on Heaven, I still had to pay extremely close attention to the bosses and stage hazards; you can't make many mistakes through the whole run if you want to beat the final boss.
I enjoyed my time overall, but I was getting very frustrated at times for what is supposed to be easy mode.
It's so good to play, everything is pretty fluid, the performances from the actors are on point, the music is amazing, so are the character and set designs and effects. The only problem I have with this demo so far is that I need to git gud, lol Much luck with further development!
I really like the game's presentation and I'm invested in seeing how development on it continues! One issue I did run into is that the demo runs distractingly slow at times, especially during cutscenes - voice clips will play and finish long before what's actually being shown will match what the characters are talking about. This kinda makes the single player campaign a slog just from having to wait for cutscenes to finish, but ironically the gameplay itself isn't quite as laggy so perhaps this is just a matter of optimization? Still, very interested in seeing a full release!
Edit: Upon further inspection it appears the demo is VERY greedy in the graphical processing department, which is a bit odd since the game's visuals don't seem too graphically intensive? Dunno 100% if that's the culprit for my slowdown issues but either way, here's hoping it can be patched up!
The game actually is quite graphically AND code intensive. Just to put things in perspective, each character model is as detailed as the likes of somthing like Guilty Gear Xrd/Strive, but with MORE OF characters inscreen. a big chunk of the strain is that the enemy AI can get pretty intensive which they are ways we try and cull it!
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game is fire and gremile is a cutie i just wish it was easier lol
No Shame on playing on Heaven!
is heaven meant to be easy damn
THANK YOU!!! Some 1 else who agrees even "Heaven" is too damn punishing!!! It'd be better just to have infinite lives!!!
Keyboard works fine, but my controller won't work at all
Did you put the controller binds in the input menu?
Same issue here. The application doesn't respond to neither of my gamepads at all.
Never mind it just did, oops.Whoops, got it now. Danke
yep i cant play...it just doesnt move when i try to select and i cant change controls
What screen are you stuck on?
for some reason im just completely unable to get past the main menu with or without a controller?
The input Screen Requires a Mouse!
it appears to be the keyboard and my controller fight for dominance and if my controller is like, on at all my keyboard + mouse dont work, even after turning the game on with my ds4 controller, however keyboard without a controller works perfectly fine for me
Eeey, I am glad you were able to figure it out!
It's so gratifying to know that there's a dev out there willing to make another game like Power Stone and Wario World at a time where such games are sorely neglected by their parent companies, especially when the game is a blast to play and learn.
I noticed in the Trophy Viewer that Junior's model (Split's bro, in case anyone here forgot) doesn't include his Paul Stanley star. Not sure if that's been written out of his design or if it's a minor graphical oversight.
We actually didn't include it since for Jr, we already were using a very complex system to get the fur pattern on his body (we use very specialised texturing techniques to ensure they are very high quality even when zoomed in!)
But who knows, we may include it to match his ref more in the future!
Noted. Thanks for your time!
Se me paro la tula con Gremile
Having a issue with the game. i'm trying to play it with my Dualshock 4 controller but for some reason it just wouldn't start the game, and then i tried using my keyboard and mouse.. same issue
am i doing something wrong?
The controller Input menu is mouse only!
I can't choose the character and chapter of the game by myself. The game just chooses everything and launches me into battle. How to fix it? :С
Ah, Some times if you tab/in out of the game with a button, it thinks the button is being held. If you the press the button (in this the case, the B button) or mash the buttons, it should fix itself!
i played through (what i think is) most of the first episode on easy and normal mode.
overall i think it’s pretty fun. i like the character designs especially!!
i’m gonna try to play through it some more times later on harder difficulties and different characters to get a better feel for it.
i definitely have a ton of quality-of-life complaints, though.
this comment is very long so i just want to reiterate here that i like the game a lot!!
again, most of my comment is going to be about quality-of-life stuff or bugs
i played with mal and gremile so far, so some of my points might not quite apply to the other two characters or on the harder difficulties
(i’ve played some on an older version and some on the most recent patch, so it may be the case that something i said here doesn’t apply anymore)
Potential bugs/errors
you can grab multiple enemies at once, but only one enemy takes damage.
on the train section in the second stage of episode one, you can fall off of the backside.
the game otherwise doesn’t let you fall off of the stage, so it feels like an error
i also experienced the glitch that i think someone else did where the first boss glitches out recovering from stun and infinitely spawns dust clouds and doesn’t do anything (on v1.1.5).
with gremile’s jump B, if you touch the ground while he’s putting his guns away, he doesn’t snap to the ground like he does when you’re shooting.
because of that, you still count as being in the air so when you try to attack you get aerial attacks.
i mostly encounter this because i do jump B, then i want to land and start doing moves on the ground, but when i tap B i get j.B again.
sometimes it’s happened to me when i run into king yama and it sort of boosts me into the air a little, or after a super recovery when you’re not quite on the ground yet but you can still perform an action
the game flings you up into the air when you occupy the same spot as another character.
depending on how much overlap or momentum there is, you can go really high, it’s a little jarring and hard to predict
this is kind of an unhelpful bug report since i don’t know how it happens, but somehow in the middle of one playthrough my inputs suddenly became very glitchy.
i thought it was my controller acting up, but i switched back to keyboard controls (meaning i quit the playthrough) and it didn’t fix anything.
for some reason, any buttons i pressed wouldn’t count as being held for more than a few frames, and also the game would seemingly drop inputs at random.
unplugging my controller completely resolves the issue, but now anytime i plug the controller back in, i have the same issue.
i guess it’s somehow a bug with the controller support in the game? it can interfere with my inputs even when i don’t have any controller buttons bound and am only using keyboard+mouse. and in other programs, my controller wasn’t glitching out.
Gameplay
i think the health system is a little weird. your health is displayed in a bar like you can take a wide range of damage, but in my experience you can basically treat it like “four hits and you’re dead”.
that kind of seems to hold true whether you’re fighting bosses or normal enemies and whether you get hit by an up-close punch or a far away projectile.
of course, there definitely are things that do more or less damage, but i feel like it’s hard to really feel the differece.
i think it would be better for gameplay flow if you didn’t get knocked down from every single attack.
for the most part, it didn’t really seem worth it to super recover unless you were about to get launched into a stage hazard or something.
enemies don’t seem to be able to combo you on purpose, so the only benefit to super recovering on most hits is to get up faster which isn’t usually worth spending a super orb on, to me.
i think having attacks that don’t knock you down would be better so that you don’t have to wait a really long time every time you happen to get hit. or at least, maybe you should be able to press something when you hit the ground to recover faster.
i think the attacks in this game seem pretty committal, which is kind of unusual for a game in this genre (not that that makes it a bad thing!).
even though a lot of enemy attacks are reactable, i think often times when you notice one happening it’ll be too late if you’ve already started committing to an attack.
there’s no dodge mechanic or anything, so i feel like it might be nice to have more jump-cancels on things so you can bail out. otherwise your only invincible option is a grab attack. perhaps supers could be more invincible so that you have more options to deal with that kind of situation? especially since you have to use a super orb, i think it’d be fair and not a choice you would always make
it might be nice if you could pick different grab attacks, at least on normal enemies
like if you had one grab attack that did less damage to the single target that you grabbed, but it deals AoE damage, or something like that i think since it seems like your primary finisher, grab attacks currently feel a little repetitive because there’s only one animation on normal enemies (as far as i can tell), they last a long time for how often you might want to use them, and they also only work on one enemy at a time.
the length and special camera angle end up breaking the flow when you use grabs so often. you also lose track of the other enemies because of the camera change, so it’s kind of easy to get smacked in the face right after landing one if there are other enemies around so it might be nice to have grabs that give you extra utility like crowd control or repositioning or something like that. or at least make the animation a little snappier somehow.
an actual pause button would be nice, mostly if you have to go to the bathroom or something, but also because it would let you change your controls and stuff without having to quit back out to the menu
in the train sections, i think the hitbox for the laser stage hazards seems really tall.
every so often, i think i’ve jumped clean over it and then i somehow get clipped by it when it doesn’t seem to visually collide with my model.
the collision detection on the water slide section should probably be changed so it’s not so slope-y.
it’s not very fun when your character is constantly flying off of the sides of the raft, you just feel like you have no control
i don’t think enemies should be able to fall off the stage on their own.
it kinda just feels weird how often enemies end up doing that, especially when the player can’t fall off the stage
related, knocking enemies off the stage should probably just KO them.
it is kind of easy, but it’s a simple pleasure in a lot of beat-’em-ups and i think blasting enemies off the stage only for them to just reappear with a little bit of life lost is a little unsatisfying. maybe it could at least hurt enemies more?
gremile’s A+B+C has a deadzone right in front of him. i dunno if it’s on purpose but i just think it feels kinda bad
actually, in general i think the super feels underwhelming. aside from the deadzone (which is also a big deal, imo) it doesn’t seem to have great damage output or accuracy, and you’ll instantly drop it as soon as you jump or get hit.
Aesthetics
the game can get very visually busy, so there are some extra touches that could improve visual clarity a lot.
like, if characters had colored outlines that always rendered on top of everything, or if effects are rendered on top of characters, you could still see the character through the effect like it’s partially transparent, or something like that.
one time i had a goblin place a bomb near the front of the screen, so probably a good 60% of the screen was totally concealed, and i couldn’t tell if i was near any stage hazards, or see that a second goblin had placed a bomb next to me that was also hidden by the explosion and about to explode! likewise, on the car fight in the tunnel section of the second stage, a bomb blowing up in the front can obscure the landing zone of a bomb that’s going to land behind the explosion
the camera should probably be able to go a little further out of bounds.
it’s hard to see what’s going on with your character if you’re right up at the bottom edge/corners of the screen
especially on the racetrack stage, you can go totally off-camera!
there’s not really a lot of hitstop on attacks (if any?) besides grab attacks, so i think a lot of normal attacks end up feeling pretty underwhelming even if they do blast enemies across the screen.
gremile’s gunshots should probably have bullet trails or something.
it’s hard to tell exactly where you’re hitting and it would also help give them more impact, i think
there could probably be a little more slowdown/zoom-in when you land the final hit on a boss (like guilty gear XRD/strive, i guess) before it goes all rainbow and melty.
the screen going rainbow is too sudden when the camera angle changes at the same time, it’s really hard to process what exactly you’re seeing when you KO a boss. to be honest, i might just suggest not making everything go rainbow-y? it just feels out of place somehow.
i feel like the boss’s name should probably be shown somewhere near the health bar?
i’m not sure if i missed it, but there should probably be some indication of how long a boss will be stunned for
like the armor bar should probably be recharging or something while you beat ‘em up
i don’t think it’s super fun to just have to estimate how long a boss is stunned and how much of that time you think you’ve already used, especially because once the boss gets its armor back you can’t land a grab attack which massively increases your damage output for that cycle.
extending a combo on a stunned boss feels like a risk the game is forcing you to take because there’s no on-screen indicator, rather than a risk you can take of your own accord if the boss is about to recover
related to my complaint about grab attacks, to avoid repetitiveness and flow-breaking i think maybe the KO slowdown and voice line should only happen when you clear a wave, rather than for every single enemy that you KO?
it also becomes jarring when an enemy gets KO’d by a stage hazard, because then your game slows down at an unexpected time since you probably weren’t paying attention to that enemy
i do hope more optimiation or options to help improve performance get added in the future, like maybe rendering resolution scaling or something like that.
it is part of the aesthetics of the game, but if someone is running on a weaker machine they might also appreciate the option to have corpses disappear? they didn’t really serve any gameplay purpose as far as i can tell
i could mostly run it fine on a not-especially powerful machine, but it would be nice if there were options to make it run a little better
Controls
the turning radius for running feels like it’s implemented strangely. of all of my complaints, this is definitely the biggest issue to me
you can’t run in one direction and then directly backwards without taking a huge arc.
i’ve definitely run head-first into so many attacks (especially stage hazards and projectiles) just because of this, and in general i think it makes following enemies in combos harder than intended
keyboard and controller bindings should probably be separate.
i was definitely very confused when i saw that there was controller support but it didn’t seem work at all in the game.
so i played on mouse+keyboard, and basically right before i wrote this comment i found out that the controller still works in the control binding menu anyways.
it seems like you want to be running most of the time, so it would probably be better to make running default and change shift pedal to be something that slows you down (like maybe a guard that reduces your damage or something).
otherwise you’re going to spend 90% of the game with your finger on the run button which is a little straining on your run-button finger.
i think there might be too many button combinations?
basically, if you’re playing on a controller then you’re going to have to deal with at least one uncomfortable button combination for most layouts. you can add macros to combat this (and there are macros for A+B+C and B+C+D), but i think maybe changing the fundamental control scheme would be better
the current controls make the shift pedal feel kind of underused. instead of just making you run, i think some of the things you do with button combinations now could be done with shift pedal + button instead.
or you could maybe add a second button that’s purely to modify the function of ABCD (basically the same suggestion, just making a new button instead).
there could also be button-hold and button-release commands, maybe? like, mal and gremile have a B,B,B,A+B combo, but it could be B,B,B,hold B or just B,B,hold B instead. it’s just an idea, though
in gremile’s case, he doesn’t have a B,B,B,B attack like mal does, so i feel like there isn’t really a reason that he should have to press A+B to get the fourth attack besides the fact that it seems like a universal chain (which is fair enough, but just a little odd in my opinion)
i also think button combinations with the jump button are kind of awkward if you’re using mouse+key board with the default controls.
you have to coordinate pressing spacebar with one hand at the same time that you click with a different finger on the other hand, which is slightly difficult, and if you mess it up, you’re probably going to get a jump instead of an attack.
the detection for button combinations needs to be more lenient.
my first experience of the game was getting to the practice room before the game starts and wondering why i couldn’t start the game when i pressed B+C+D, and it was because i just didn’t press them close enough for the game to count it.
of course, i got more consistent over time, but i still fail them every so often when i tend not to in most fighting games since they have a little more leniency.
you should definitely add button macros for A+B, B+C, and A+C since i feel like there’s no reason not to and would help with freedom in mapping controls
I will try and respond to this in a bit, but some of those things are intended, while some bugs we are in the process of updating. A lot of what you mentioned though is intended, like Gremiles Minigun dead zone!
Oh yes, I wanted to mention by the way, if you do have any suggestions you'd like for the game, you can post it here or come to my discord and give me feed back!
The recent patch that includes the marcos for SUPER and TAUNT is due to commuinity input!
Really good game. Love the combat and graphics, especially Gremile coming back from your previous game. Only issue I run into when attempting to bind my controller inputs I seem to be unable to do so. Sometimes it works, then it gets stuck in which neither controller or keyboard works which has led to several redownloads to trash old files to fix. Otherwise, I see no other issues with the game
Really good! I think the only thing that irks me is the sound design, it feels a bit underwhelming, which is pretty crucial for a fighting game, and it makes a bit hard to tell whos doing what from a zoomed away perspective, mostly in singleplayer when theres multiple enemies doing things. Presentation and gameplay however, are shaping up to be REALLY solid!
So far the game feels good! My only gripe that I hope gets fixed is not being able to have shortcuts for button combinations
Will be added in the next patch which I will be dropping when I wake up!
The presentation is great, enjoying my time with it.
More continues/health would be appreciated on Heaven mode. I can barely make it to the last boss after 4-5 tries.
Heaven mode feels too difficult for what is supposed to be the more relaxing mode. I eventually got the hang of it, but I was getting tired of mashing to skip a cutscene that I was getting to for the 20th time. The especially frustrating parts were the boss attacks that took away what seemed like half of the health bar. While the small enemies posed little threat on Heaven, I still had to pay extremely close attention to the bosses and stage hazards; you can't make many mistakes through the whole run if you want to beat the final boss.
I enjoyed my time overall, but I was getting very frustrated at times for what is supposed to be easy mode.
It's so good to play, everything is pretty fluid, the performances from the actors are on point, the music is amazing, so are the character and set designs and effects. The only problem I have with this demo so far is that I need to git gud, lol Much luck with further development!
They is no shame in playing in Heaven mode if you feel the need to do so, but I am happy you enjoying the experiance so far!
I am playing on heaven mode sadly. Nothing for me to do other than practice up.
I'm not totally understanding how to get Online Multiplayer to work. Can anyone explain?
For multiplayer to work you need to look into port forwarding. The Ports for the game btw are 666, UDP!
I really like the game's presentation and I'm invested in seeing how development on it continues! One issue I did run into is that the demo runs distractingly slow at times, especially during cutscenes - voice clips will play and finish long before what's actually being shown will match what the characters are talking about. This kinda makes the single player campaign a slog just from having to wait for cutscenes to finish, but ironically the gameplay itself isn't quite as laggy so perhaps this is just a matter of optimization? Still, very interested in seeing a full release!
Edit: Upon further inspection it appears the demo is VERY greedy in the graphical processing department, which is a bit odd since the game's visuals don't seem too graphically intensive? Dunno 100% if that's the culprit for my slowdown issues but either way, here's hoping it can be patched up!
The game actually is quite graphically AND code intensive. Just to put things in perspective, each character model is as detailed as the likes of somthing like Guilty Gear Xrd/Strive, but with MORE OF characters inscreen. a big chunk of the strain is that the enemy AI can get pretty intensive which they are ways we try and cull it!
Just beware, this game is made for BIG RIGS.
Is there an option that makes it more accessible for lower performing PCs?
Unfortunately not!
Ah I see. Hopefully such an option gets added in the future.
actually really good, just cant get behind the characters designs personally
Hm, interesting.
I like it.
having trouble downloading, says its a .7z file?
you want 7-zip to open it. free program, works like winrar/winzip.
now its saying unity player isnt installed even though its in the file
this demos pretty sick, can’t wait for the full release!
#kingsofhellsweep first game to get one kingillion downloads
Gremile is hot, 100/10 would replay